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- Subject: Ham-Equip Digest V94 #34
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- Ham-Equip Digest Wed, 16 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 34
-
- Today's Topics:
- Announcement - New Maillist
- Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment (3 msgs)
- general advice for new stereo
- HT Recs out there? (TH78A)
- Looking for LOGIKEY keyer
- Looking for PC Hardware
- Needed: 440MHZ plug for Bird Wattmeter (2 msgs)
- Pkt satellite receiver card for PC?
- Remote cable for TM732
- rotator ???
- th77a
-
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-
- Date: 15 Feb 1994 15:35:41 GMT
- From: gulfaero.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!news.gsfc.nasa.gov!gc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Announcement - New Maillist
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- Announcement
- VSS: Vintage Solid-State Maillist
-
-
- Purpose of the list
- The Vintage Solid-State (VSS) maillist is for the discussion
- of older solid-state communications equipment that is
- of interest to the radio amateur and other experimenters.
-
- This equipment includes test equipment (signal generators,
- oscilloscopes,...), receivers, transmitters and accessories
- built in the 1960's and 1970's. Manufacturers of interest
- include Hewlett-Packard, Tektronix, Motorola, Racal,
- Heathkit, National, Atlas, Drake and others.
-
- Discussion will cover what's available, recent prices,
- what to look for, what's good and what's not, maintenance
- and restoration, where to find documentation, etc.
-
-
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-
- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:27:51 GMT
- From: ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU!werple.apana.org.au!zikzak.apana.org.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!siemens!news.ecn.bgu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nshore!seastar!@munnari.oz.au
- Subject: Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- As quoted from <dgfCL6L1t.Mx1@netcom.com> by dgf@netcom.com (David Feldman):
-
- > I purchased four "D" cells and their recharger. My application requires
- > 6VDC at about 5 amps continuous. When new, the cells decreased from 6V
- > (series connected) output to about 4V output rather linearly during about
- > 30 minutes of loading. I recharged the cells as directed, and repeated the
- > usage. After only 15 charge/discharge cycles, the battery reached 4V output
- > after only 5 minutes of usage (again, a linear time/voltage discharge).
- > I looked for one "weak" cell in the string, but each cell was similar to
- > the others at any given point in time. I tried this test only on one set of
- > 4 cells purchased at the same time from a local retailer.
-
- 5 amps continuous?!? That's one helluva draw! These cells
- have a fairly high internal resistance (like regular alkalines), and
- at that draw they just plain won't work worth squat. They will work
- best in situations that draw about 100mah average or so (maybe a
- little more, and maybe less for the AA cells).
- Use them in situations where you would usually use an alkaline
- cell (and expect *that* to work well). We use them in an HT that's on
- a lot, monitoring probably 8 hours per day and talking (medium or low
- power) for maybe 5 minutes per day, and they last us probably a week
- or so. Nicads *sometimes* lasted the whole day. Alkalines last even
- longer, but get expensive fast. The deep-cycle 105AH Marine battery
- lasts a very long time but is somewhat less portable ;-)
- >
-
-
- --
- When I die, they'll bury me John Welch, N9JZW
- in the Tomb of the Unknown Hacker. jjw@seastar.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 15:56:08 GMT
- From: gulfaero.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!rabbit.cccs.umn.edu!RWH@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <seldon.761238800@pv6624.vincent.iastate.edu> seldon@iastate.edu () writes:
- >From: seldon@iastate.edu ()
- >Subject: Re: Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment
- >Date: 14 Feb 94 15:13:20 GMT
-
- >In <dgfCL6L1t.Mx1@netcom.com> dgf@netcom.com (David Feldman) writes:
-
- >...<stuff deleted>...
-
-
- >>I have not tried the other size cells. I'm posting this here because this test
- >>was a pre-cursor to use in some ham (ATV portable) applications where I needed
- >>higher energy storage density by weight but did not need numerous recharge
- >>cycles (compared to NiCads). I believe they are not suitable for this
- >>application based on my test.
-
- >>Comments? 73 Dave WB0GAZ
-
- >You could always try the same test with 8 batteries in a series parallel
- >configuration. This should reduce the current drain on each individual
- >battery, and still provide you with 6 volts.
-
- For what its worth, the spec sheets showed up from Ray-O-Vac today and it
- shows a capacity of 5.5AH for the initial charge and 90AH over a 25 cycle
- life.
-
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 15:52:44 GMT
- From: gulfaero.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!dgf@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Experience with Ray-O-Vac "Renewal" batteries - disappointment
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CL832F.1M4@seastar.org> jjw@seastar.org (John Welch) writes:
- >As quoted from <dgfCL6L1t.Mx1@netcom.com> by dgf@netcom.com (David Feldman):
- >
- >> I purchased four "D" cells and their recharger. My application requires
- >> 6VDC at about 5 amps continuous. When new, the cells decreased from 6V
- >
- > 5 amps continuous?!? That's one helluva draw! These cells
- >have a fairly high internal resistance (like regular alkalines), and
- >at that draw they just plain won't work worth squat. They will work
- >best in situations that draw about 100mah average or so (maybe a
- >little more, and maybe less for the AA cells).
-
- * OK OK OK OK * I stand corrected, informed, and generally a better form
- of life than I was when I first posted the item. I did not realize that
- this was the nature of Alkaline cells, and the four cells I tested have
- been relegated to a flashlight where they are basically happy. Live & Learn!
- 73! Dave WB0GAZ dgf@netcom.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 9 Feb 1994 19:35:20 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!transfer.stratus.com!hoop.sw.stratus.com!northup@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: general advice for new stereo
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- You should try rec.audio and rec.audio.high-end - you will get better
- information there. Amateur radio is not know for high quality audio.
-
- jlh@rio.mitre.org (Jean L. Henchey) writes:
- : I'm looking to purchase a new stereo and I was wondering if you might
- : provide some insight and advice. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
- :
- : I would like a stereo with excellent sound quality for classical and
- : rock music. I would like 2 tape drives and a 1+ CD platter for
- : continuous play. Friends have tried to encourage me towards getting
- : surround sound, but that raises the price even more.
- :
- : What are some good name brands? Where are the best stores to shop for
- : whole systems and components? Is surround sound worth it?
- :
- : Thank you in advance,
- :
- : Jean Henchey
- : jlh@linus.mitre.org
-
- --
- --
-
- Bill Northup PHONE: (508) 460-2085
- Stratus Computer Inc. INTERNET: northup@sw.stratus.com
- 55 Fairbanks Boulevard OR: northup@Vos.Stratus.com
- Marlboro, MA 01752 Amateur Radio: n1qpr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 14:55:25 GMT
- From: gulfaero.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!blood@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HT Recs out there? (TH78A)
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- A comment on the TH78A. I think it is a great radio with the following
- exceptions: 1: Cannot be used on external antenna on 2M due to horriffic
- intermod problems.
- 2: The battery release latch will occasionally trip when wearing
- on your belt, resulting in an unplanned battery drop test.
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 08:23:45 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!EU.net!sun4nl!bsoatr!bsdihi!dihi@ames.arpa
- Subject: Looking for LOGIKEY keyer
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- The Superkeyer II is the best value for money you can get
- Service after order is perfect. Got my kit in 10 days time in Holland.
- I have a great time using te keyer.
-
- Dick Hissink PA3DSP
- Email:dihi@bsdihi.atr.bso.nl
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 Feb 1994 09:09:27 GMT
- From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lille1.fr!lifl!tpdesspa@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Looking for PC Hardware
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- HI ! I'm looking for PC Hardware to communicate by radio.
-
- I'm specially searching for low radio power cards (e.g. 100 mW),
- because I want LOCAL COMMUNICATIONS.
-
- And I'm desesperate!
- I only found 2 pieces of hardware: NCR / AT&T WaveLAN and TxCOM .
-
-
- Pliiiiiiiiiiiiize could you send me informations about differents products
- AND / OR where to get informations about them.
-
- THAAANNNNNNKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYOU !
- C U SOON.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 17:01:55 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!wa4mei.ping.com!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Needed: 440MHZ plug for Bird Wattmeter
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Feb11.233844.1@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu> pettitda@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu writes:
- >Does anyone have or know where I can get a 440 MHz plug for the Bird wattmeter?
-
- Bird is a good source. :-)
-
- Dielectric Corp slugs will work too, and may be more available, or
- cheaper. Most of the major two way and ham suppliers list slugs in
- their catalogs.
-
- Gary
-
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Feb 94 06:57:19 GMT
- From: ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU!werple.apana.org.au!zikzak.apana.org.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!BIX@munnari.oz.au
- Subject: Needed: 440MHZ plug for Bird Wattmeter
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- pettitda@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu writes:
-
- >Does anyone have or know where I can get a 440 MHz plug for the Bird wattmeter?
- >
- >Dave
-
- Amateur Electronic Supply or Ham Radio Outlet should have
- them... but they are new and you pay for new oats.
-
- There should also be lots of this kind of stuff at Dayton,
- if you can wait, put up with the parking, and so on.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Feb 1994 09:35:50 -0600
- From: newshub.nosc.mil!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!bnrgate!corpgate!crchh327.bnr.ca!crchh620.bnr.ca!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Pkt satellite receiver card for PC?
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- [Q 1]:
-
- I would like to know if there is an ISA-bus card which acts as
- a satellite receiver that I can plug into my PC. My "project"
- involves a satellite dish with coax cable receiving a packet RF
- transmission which I would like to run into my PC for decoding.
- The data would then be displayed under Windows3.1/NT/whatever.
-
- [Q 2]:
-
- What are Phil Karn's KA9q C functions?
-
-
- If my questions don't make sense it's because I'm new to this
- and don't know much about packet radio.
-
- Thanks
-
- Allen Willson | BNR claims no reponsiblity
- allenw@bnr.ca | for my rambling.
- Bell-Northern Research, Ltd. |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 15:53:26 GMT
- From: gulfaero.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!psuvax1!ukma!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov!bodoh@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Remote cable for TM732
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- Has anyone built their own remote cable for their Kenwood TM732 or 741? I
- have a hard time forking out $50+ for a piece of wire that should be
- included with the radio in the first place. Thanks...
-
- --
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- + USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA 57198 (605) 594-6830 +
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- + "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!" EL&P +
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 Feb 1994 00:23:23 GMT
- From: pagesat.net!olivea!charnel!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!franklin.@news.cerf.net
- Subject: rotator ???
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- I wonder if your rotor isn't just an induction motor that has a run capacitor
- which determines the direction and a small gear train to reduce speed an
- increase torque. Syncro's have littel torque not enought to turn an antenna.
- The cost of these were quite high. Most rotors had some other type of system
- to get direction. One used a set of contacts that made and broke with motor
- rotation. Kinda like a KERCHUNK sound at the indicator end when the rotor
- was turning.
- The other had a variable resistor mounted in the rotor and sent back
- some signal to a meter in the control. Radio Shack had anoter type that
- had a syncronus motor in the control unit which moved a direction disk at
- the same rate as the motor on the antenna.
- Most all of these motors were run on 24 vac. (the stepdown transformer
- in the control unit 120 to 24vac). This let you use low voltage wire
- and not run into complications with the 120vac line voltage. The capacitor
- in the control unit is an A.C. motor run capacitor. If it gets weak the
- rotor torque goes way down.
- Hope some of this was of help
- 73s John WA0VYZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 11:10:02 GMT
- From: koriel!sh.wide!wnoc-tyo-news!hitwide!hinocgw!hperlgw2!tamoto@ames.arpa
- Subject: th77a
- To: ham-equip@ucsd.edu
-
- .l
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